The Dark Alliance
Archive => Starwars The Old Republic => General Discussion => Topic started by: TenzorDK on 03 January, 2012, 11:23:10 AM
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you shoudl be about endgame by now ^^ anything to report pvp, pve and other content? balance etc :)
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It's ok, but the engine is buggy as anything. For instance, it doesn't support hyper threading, so new machines can have choppy or low fps 0.o I am playing on he RP pvp server with a guild on the republic side. Got to say, it's nowhere near as much fun as sith - I was considering switching sides and playing with tda, but seems we are all on diff servers. Honestly, it 'could' bea good game. It's very linear, buggy, and far too much like a beta test if I am being honest. Be aware of this when thinking of paying your money.
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It's fun, I really enjoy it, but I don't think its proper finished yet.
The PvP is interesting, huttball is funny :) (american football with traps and killing)
I'm playing a bounty hunter (lvl35) on The Kumungah pvp server and being Empire is alot more fun than Republic.
The quests and class quests are cool. Some of the things you do affect your companions and future story lines.
Also the instances (flashpoints) are different. They are story driven so the choices you make mean that you can have different versions of the same instance.
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Reminds me of otehr games where EA was involved, I think i went something like this... (dream-like flashback sequence):
Random BioWare Employee = RBE
EA=EA
Early 2011, somewhere in game developerland...
EA: So when is it ready?
RBE 1&2: hmm about 20 dec sounds good
EA: Sounds good to me.
Later that yea...
RBE1: hey RBE2 I just found this GW2... ehm I just totally came up with this story line dungeon..ehm flashpoint thing
RBE2: eh?
RBE1: yea it will be awesome!
November 2011...
RBE1: soooo EA?
EA: yea?
RBE1: We came up with this super kewl idea with timeline dungeo... ehm... flashpoints..
EA: mhmm...
RBE2: and we woundered if we could release it abit later then expected?
EA: well you can release it when it is ready!
RBE1: but bu... waaa?! So we get more time?
EA: You said it would be ready by 20. dec, so yea you have to 20. dec.
RBE1&2: .....
EA: good we all agree then!
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It's a good game. But as mentioned before, some thing could use tweaking. Overall it looks good, plays well and has lots of fun videos and questing.
The pvp side is pretty fun. But with only 3 warzones, that might lose its appeal after hitting 50 and getting the gear you want.
Another big thing will be perma CC. You can effectively lock someone down and rape them with 2 ppl. Almost nothing can be done against that and healing wont keep up. This makes for nice teamplay chances, but also means if you aren't in a coordinated group you get raped easy. And you cannot do anything about it.
The biggest issue right now is that everyone who pvps joins the same queues. So you get premade lvl 50 groups against a random mix of lvl 10-50.. This can turn out good, but also means you have no chance in hell in others (and ofc sometimes you win easy as well).
It has potential, but they tried to get too much into the game to make everything polished. I mean you get the huge amount of questlines and videos to go along with that. With multiple choices and different classes that means a LOT of videos. Also they implemented spaceships and along with them space combat. Which is sort of like oldschool Wing Commander single player shooting (quite fun since I loved WC)!
We should group up on some server! Even if its just everyones alt! So which server has the most of us and lets roll!
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agree with most of the points here, especially the last one; assuming enough people are playing. I would suggest the server I am on and the guild I am in. it's light side, but the guild is being run by a friend of mine and only allows mature/older people. it's small but an excellent community. they are the only reason i am playing this side, tbh. However, if we went somewhere else, i would want to play sith.
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By this weekend I should have a 50 sorc ready. Then I can reroll something anywhere and have a laugh. I'll be going melee mode for sure, still a few options open there though.
So we can all join a server where someone has a good guild (like Adoc's or Gont's for example) or we can all reroll elsewhere. I don't really mind. I just want to enjoy another class, not rushing it, doing pvp from about 16 when you get enough skills etc. I don't mind which side we end up on, can go evil anywhere anyway. And the classes are all mirrored!!
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Sounds like a plan. I will speak to my pal about once people decide which server - republic (mine) or sith (adoc). For the mean time, I am on lord calypho server (RP pvp). Playing Aluvio, human smuggler/gunslinger. Send me a tell if you fancy trying out the republic.
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soooooo. is the game just a big beta test still (how many times a week do they patch balance issues etc)? or is it worth spending some money on?
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Sent you a reply via the forum message system today feits. Might I make a suggestion that we play sith on my server (lord calypho)? A few reasons for this: some of the republic guild I am with will alt on he other side of the server, which is a good thing; we get to kill people we might know in pvp, which is always funny; it's a good server, decent pvp and a mix of players due to it's status as an RP-pvp server. Anyways, willing to roll a toon there on sith I people are interested.
Gont.
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Which server is that again? Lord Calyph (misread first time)! I'm thinking about a duo (stealthers most likely) with a mate. We could (if you guys go someplace, should) do it out there then!
And Tenzor, stop invading vent without saying hi! I've got the announcements turned off, so you need to talk to be noticed!
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Lord Calypho RP-pvp server. Been reading about mirror balance and rep vs sith. If we are planning to do any pvp then we should deffo go sith, their spells are actually better! Can link the forum discussion if interested; it' s comical stuff.
I have a sith immortal named Agrik I will have a muck aout with later on. Not sure what I might play from scratch. Either a power tech or a sorc I expect. Let me know when you roll/ name and we can hook up. Oh, Dirlos is up for this too, so hats possibly five if Feit gives it a go. Who knows, we migh be able to twist tnzor's arm...
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Lord Calypho RP-pvp server. Been reading about mirror balance and rep vs sith. If we are planning to do any pvp then we should deffo go sith, their spells are actually better! Can link the forum discussion if interested; it' s comical stuff.
I have a sith immortal named Agrik I will have a muck aout with later on. Not sure what I might play from scratch. Either a power tech or a sorc I expect. Let me know when you roll/ name and we can hook up. Oh, Dirlos is up for this too, so hats possibly five if Feit gives it a go. Who knows, we migh be able to twist tnzor's arm...
That does sound interesting! They say that the sage's aoe heal is actually better than the sorc's one. But I have no idea if that is true or not. And without combat logs it is rather hard to compare anything!
I don't mind playing on either side, but if republic is the underdog, then wouldn't you get more fights as the underdog realm? Even if you are slightly behind on some spells they will fix that in the end.
If Feiten (and possibly Tenzor) join then we got a decent group for pvp'ing.
About the sorc, I like mine quite a bit. It took a bit of catching up. But now I'm 50 and with 2 champ parts and some crafted purples I can hold my own a lot better. And actually heal the group in the proces! You do go down like a wimp if you are undergeared and your bubble runs out though!
So far it seems that Trooper/BH are rather OP! And the burst of some stealths is amazing (although I do wonder if that isn't simply a gear issue rather than the class being out of whack!)!
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<That does sound interesting! They say that the sage's aoe heal is actually better than the sorc's one. But I have no idea if that is true or not. And without combat logs it is rather hard to compare anything! >
Here's the thread about how the mirror clas system is biased towards Sith. the evidence is staggering. It's also a very funy read: nerd rage, drama, denial, bitch-slapping - it's all there! http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=101553
<I don't mind playing on either side, but if republic is the underdog, then wouldn't you get more fights as the underdog realm? Even if you are slightly behind on some spells they will fix that in the end.>
This is a funny one imo (as a republic player on a sith dominated server) and it reminds me of our early days in Rift. As you may recall in Rift early on, we were in the less populated side. this meant we got a lot of matches and the game was fun. However, shortly after it became apparent that the opposing side had (a) more people (b) small advantages in terrain. The latter was addressed, but that that point it was too late; the enemy had more geared people. Oh, and jsut more people, so soon we were getting farmed in at least 50% of matches.
It's the same atm in SWKOTR. The imbalances apparent at the minute mean the sith outnumber the republic, have more 50s, who in turn have more pvp gear. The only difference between this and Rift is that you can reque in WZs with no penalties. Consequently, pre-50 for republic goes something like this: you queue. You see if the sith have a ton of 50s. if not, you stay. if they do, you leave and requeue. Do you see the problem? You get into more matches, but you reque a lot to save not being steam-rolled due to the imbalnce. Also, the class differences ar HUGE. Honestly, take time to look at the thread, it's a gob-smacker :o
<If Feiten (and possibly Tenzor) join then we got a decent group for pvp'ing.>
<About the sorc, I like mine quite a bit. It took a bit of catching up. But now I'm 50 and with 2 champ parts and some crafted purples I can hold my own a lot better. And actually heal the group in the proces! You do go down like a wimp if you are undergeared and your bubble runs out though!>
<So far it seems that Trooper/BH are rather OP! And the burst of some stealths is amazing (although I do wonder if that isn't simply a gear issue rather than the class being out of whack!)!>
This would seem to be true, by all accounts. Although the IA and the BH are far superior to their Republic counterparts. For example, I play a Gunslinger - pvp specced. My stun roots me to the ground when i use it, the IA's does not. His stun has a 60 sec base cooldown, mine 90s. His ranged aoe strikes on cast, mine has a travel and animation delay. Thes are to name a few.
All in all, Sith rules. That being said, if you insist on being Republic, then I am in. My guild is populated by decent and mature people. Your call dudes.
Gonty Gont Gont.
Edit (sort of): Whenever I reread these I always spot a ton of typos and thnk "bloody hell, you really should type slowly and not rush". Then I think "but I can't be arsed to fix this...".
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I've started to make a sith assassin (lvl6) on Kumunagh (where my lvl43 BH is).
If you guys play Empire on Lord Calypho then I can join you with the sin there, won't be on much tho as the BH is sooooo much fun to play.
played republic for a bit....never again.
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So, two people would like everyone to come to their server. Feiten hasn't started yet? And I don't really mind.
Gont, you okay joining Doc on his server for this (and Feiten?)?
Edit: About those differences between the realms. The 30s timer difference is an obvious mistake (imo the 60s should have been 90s like most others).
The sorc skill does NOT stun if resolve is full! I've tried this a dozen time stopping a ball carrier. It's simply not true!
The animation bugs, I still haven't seen proof one way or another. Perhaps it is 'just' the animation and the dmg is delivered earlier. Although one guy does say he died before his opponent did. Again without a combat log, we cannot actually be sure one way or another..
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btw i'm in a guild which has about 50-60 people online every night.
There are regular pvp groups people doing Flash Points.
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IF i join and its a big IF, hehe. ill join what ever
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Only Puz ever on, not even gona considder buying a new game that only 3 play and on different servers :P
Kinda not too rich atm :/
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Righto, me and Dirlos are gonna roll on doc's server in a bit. Will post names shortly. If you have a guild up and running then that works for us. Will be on vent in a bit too.
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now puz left vent and gont and Dirlos is on, but no doc or feit!
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Aloha:
playing Aluvio (sith sorc), Gont (BH).
dirlos is playing Telenikros (Sith assassin)
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tried to invite you guys, bit it says you don't exist.
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Cos we aint online. Post your toon name mate. I will be back on in a bit. Had to go to my girl's place.
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Bh is called Walker
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I'll talk to my buddy about the stealth duo later on! See if he likes going there! Think he was planning on joining me on the server I had a sorc on. We already duo on Ragash as Commando's! :)
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Okay. We will make a duo on The Kumungah!
So what type in the classes are you guys playing? Is Walker a Merc or a Powertech?
Same for the others. Just so when we get to group, we'll have one 'tank', one 'healer' and some dps. We can ofcourse respec some classes. Like I can respec my upcoming operative either as stealth (will be leveling) or a healer!
My buddy is thinking assassin (so we can stealth together)!
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Walker is a merc, gonna make a Sith Assassin for when tenz and lunie start :P
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dude the game is 400dkk i stores and the download is 450dkk for danish peeps and 350dkk in usd, but i cant get to buy the us version... retareded heh.
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Btw Doc, how are warzone pops and the like on that server. With it being listed as light. Since me and my buddy would really like to do pretty much warzones and class quests mostly!
And finding groups for the flashpoints and such!
Edit: I wonder what I already have on that server. Do recall lvling something there for an hour or so while the other queue was too horrible to join! ;D
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hmmm longest I've had to wait for a Warzone is about 5 mins during peak time (7pm GMT onwards)
As for Flashpoints, I'm in guild with approx 50 people online every night.
Most nights there are guild groups doing pvp and FP's.
Think only twice so far not been able to find the right people to do a FP.
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my will is soooo damn weak!
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my will is soooo damn weak!
your soooooooo weak
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feit ventrilo? anyone?!
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saw that msg abit to late i guess tenz, can pop on ventrilo tomorrow. now im going to paly some civV
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We had a fun and active group of players starting up last night! Quite funny all starting out at the same time.
We had a pretty solid bunch:
Gont (sorc)
Tenzor (tank)
Adoc (assassin and merc)
Paul (assassin)
Lunie (?)
Dirlos (?)
Me (Operative)
I have forgotten some, its still early and not enough coffee yet!
Overall it's gonna be fun having all on one server. I'm not too worried about needing specific classes. Many of them can be one or the other depending on their specline!
So cya all soon!
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how many people in a group btw ?
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4 people
so if you start playing Hanza that makes it 2 full groups :)
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i also have a sin called Éad
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Have updated this with more precise information about who's playing who/what class/what roles. I can't remember all the names, so please feel free to add them so people have a point of contact. As you can see we have a lot of Sith Sorcerers. Needless to say, in time honoured tradtion, I am likely going to level my Bounty hunter (Gont) for the purposes of playing in the group and play my Sorc solo. Sh*t, it gives us some buff variation at least! things missing at the minute? We have one dedicated healer as far as I can tell (Lunie).
We had a pretty solid bunch, and they are as follows:
Gont (Aluvio: Sorcerer - dps/offheal. Gont: Powertech bounty hunter - tank/dps)
Tenzor (Sith Juggernaught - tank/dps)
Adoctor (sith assassin - dps/tank. Walker: Mercenary bounty hunter - dps/offheal)
Paul (Grumpybum:sith assassin - tank/dps)
Lunie (Lunie: sith sorcerer - heal specced)
Dirlos (Telenikros: Sith assassin - tank specced)
Arendur (Puz: Imperial operative - dps/offheal)
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also good i aint plying teh only tank since you never know if I will keep it or what ever ;)
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Paul's sin is named: Grumpybum! And my operative is named Puz! :P
Also, we have a lot of inquisitors, but only two sorc's? A sorc is the most 'group' based class I see. They don't have the burst dps to be a true solo class if you ask me!
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Have updated that. Am finding the sorc to be an excellent solo class. Did the heroic nanda Priam quest chain solo last night; the Cc elements are pretty impressive by comparison to other classes I have played. That and having a tank pet is very useful indeed ;)
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Have updated that. Am finding the sorc to be an excellent solo class. Did the heroic nanda Priam quest chain solo last night; the Cc elements are pretty impressive by comparison to other classes I have played. That and having a tank pet is very useful indeed ;)
Ahh, yes pve they solo just fine! :P I was thinking pvp related!
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Choices choices choices. At the moment I'm pondering wether I wanna keep the stealther as a duo toon with Grumpy. Which could mean rolling something else on the side for a laugh.
Already having a sorc, so it won't be that. But what else could we use for normal groups and pve setups and the like? Sorta depends on what everyone has already. Guessing healer, so then BH sounds like a good plan!
And on another note. Which crafts does everyone have? I'm making the stealther Biochem. Hoping to get enough of the materials through him to make the next one another craft (with lvl 1 Biochem to use the pots). So what do we have and what could we use?
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I am already bored with my warrior, so we could use one of them hehe
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am fairly advanced in my Biochem/Bioanalysis. Did have slicing but am going to drop it for Diplomacy this evening. Would change professions overall, but I've been damn good at leveling my craft, so would be something of a waste now I guess (this is for Aluvio). Almost certainly going to be primarily dps/support on Aluvio, tbh. I am sure I can off-heal flashpoints - although time will tell - but not my intention overall.
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Éad is Archeolagy and treasure hunting and Atificering
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Walker is armourtech (nearly 400), scavaging and underworld
Lister is Biotech, bioanalysis and slicing
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I am already bored with my warrior, so we could use one of them hehe
How can you be bored with the sith leap to the target smack them up type?
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cause he wants to be a sith assassin like all the cool kids :P
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It might be my pov. But playing my sorc. The tanks seem to have a lot of fun, a huge impact on the fight and they gain medals easy! :P
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I is tank Sin for once haha
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I made a operative yesterday on the server. Name is Segen. What is the name of the guild
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We just joined some random guild called Tranquillity
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Ok :-) i finish work in One hour. Try to pm any of you then.
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which class is the CC class? or healer class?
me is trying to figure out if im going to play or not
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bounty hunter and sorc can heal.. i know both have some CC, but tbh you would be better of hearing from one of the others :)
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bounty hunter, sorc and imperial operative can heal.
I think the sorc or IO get the most CC, not sure.
BH only gets one 60 sec stun and one 8 sec stun.
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ok making decision after job interview in england ;)
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bounty hunter, sorc and imperial operative can heal.
I think the sorc or IO get the most CC, not sure.
BH only gets one 60 sec stun and one 8 sec stun.
All depends on what you count as CC really. They all get roughly the same things. One minute 'stun' (8s in pvp), the 4s stun and a knockback.
Healing wise. The bounty hunter seems to be the easiest pvp healer atm. They are near impossible to take down and can keep on healing.
A sorc/sage can do really great, but against good players a guard is rather essential, since some classes can otherwise just burst you down.
The operative heals good as well, but requires more micromanagement. You need to keep your rotations with hots working. And they really shine when your target is under 30%, with free insta heals.
I'd say all healer types work, especially in groups working together. So just pick the playstyle you like most. Or the class that has the most appealing secondary trees.
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the sorc gets a pull friend ability and teh BH gets a pull enemy, both with excellent pvp potential - especially in huttball
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True, although I think the pull is for the tank style, not the healer one. The sage one is quite funny!
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Server? We are (6) playing on Lord Calypho (Empire).
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The Kumungah!
hmm hope we get server tranfures soonish heh
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it's not that bad....don't have to wait too long for pvp queues.
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Lord Calypho is always on heavy and had some "heavy" login cues for a while but now its ok.
Empire is a bit more Huttball heavy as always but I guess a second shared warfront will help to fix it. I have a 50 Operative and a 42 sorcerer there so I am not so keen to switch server sadly. Zenumuron, Orgi and Stenthor are playing too.
I guess my answer was The Kumungah. Would be fun to play together again before GW2 but hey ... some day ;)
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Aye, let's just hope they give transfers or the like in the future. So we can get more people together!
It's already a lot of fun having 6 ppl around on the same server. Even as a group of lvl 15-25 we made a difference in warzones. Quite funny!
Will be interesting to see how the population holds up. There is already a large difference between empire and republic. I can see this on my guardian. I hardly see Huttball there. You have plenty of empires to kill in other warzones!
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Vent time! A few of us worried about the server/guild and such! So anyone seeing this tonight (tuesday) please hop on vent to chat about it.