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Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 09 November, 2005, 10:34:25 AM
http://daoc.goa.com/en/

big letters indeed..

now go vote (cough class issues COUGH!)!
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Hanza on 09 November, 2005, 10:58:16 AM
i voted, class issue was OFC my first choice

.. but while reading the english and french suggestion about changes i m afraid they will : Cancell warlock, nerf shamy buff, gimp thane(yes they are too ubber and keep on interupting) ... etc :( but dont worry we have so many albs whine that we ll prolly have a range increase for theur and wizzard and all alb caster will be able to wear plates armor cause they are really too weak .... /dismiss

i read some funny post from a guy asking to remove the race restriction for some class he said its non sense... hopefully we dont have troll archer otherwise i m pretty sure the very same guy would be calling for his mum crying for nerf :p
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 09 November, 2005, 11:00:51 AM
Mythic will never delete a class. Pretty sure they will ignore the whole post when people come with SUCH EXCELLENT AND WELL THOUGHT OF ideas.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Adoctor on 09 November, 2005, 11:03:56 AM
I picked "fix housing" :)

not !

Class issues all the way on both accounts.

I would of liked to pick crafting, but class issues more important.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 09 November, 2005, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: "hanza"
... hopefully we dont have troll archer otherwise i m pretty sure the very same guy would be calling for his mum crying for nerf :p


Troll archers would be gimp.
Troll SB's however......

Class issues all the way :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Erebird on 09 November, 2005, 11:49:02 AM
i voted:
Roleplaying, Fluff, and Extras (mini games, pets, costumes, emotes, etc)
i want a kitty!  :(
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 09 November, 2005, 12:12:19 PM
just in case it wasn't clear..

you are not allowed to vote for anything besides "Class issues" :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: delay on 09 November, 2005, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: "Trallisx"
Troll SB's however......

Was it GUComics that had the strips about trolls hiding behind trees, trying to be invisible? Oh well.

Regarding crafting, doc...
I think, IF Mythic and/or GoA takes the FH suggestion thread into consideration at all, that Crafting will score high. Every other post in that thread concerns crafting =P
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fizzlefry on 09 November, 2005, 02:23:20 PM
i voted for more fend less whine!
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Hanza on 09 November, 2005, 02:31:58 PM
BTW delay pretty good post u made on FH concerning the mythic consultation. lots of relevent point/issues were raised!

crafting is actually a big issue as well as today it s useless to become LG crafter ... u sure can fine someone else that will bother spending hours to get 1 MP and the prices become "relatively" cheap compare to scroll price or the cash u can get farming scrolls.

 i want MY LWC to be USEFULL ... and fluffy :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Bumblina on 09 November, 2005, 09:50:03 PM
Sorry, but I went for the fluff too!

I spent a lot of time trying to improve my character to the point of being useful for anything but crafting and farming (the BD that is) and I would really like to be able to continue with crafting (tailoring) being a useful tradeskillset to have. As its now going to basically become defunct with new Epic armours coming in, I wouldnt mind having a pet, or actually my BD looking pretty!!

Sorry for not voting your way.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Vaar on 09 November, 2005, 10:17:47 PM
Wonder if anybody can guess MY top priority:)

And Y-E-S, I know I am forumspamming theese days:)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Vaar on 09 November, 2005, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: "Damevoss"
i voted:
Roleplaying, Fluff, and Extras (mini games, pets, costumes, emotes, etc)
i want a kitty!  :(


And By the way you do not know about the summon kitty quest? This is NOT a joke in case you wondered... inserted into the game back in 1.74'ish I think?
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Erebird on 10 November, 2005, 12:42:29 AM
Quote from: "Vaar"
Quote from: "Damevoss"
i voted:
Roleplaying, Fluff, and Extras (mini games, pets, costumes, emotes, etc)
i want a kitty!  :(


And By the way you do not know about the summon kitty quest? This is NOT a joke in case you wondered... inserted into the game back in 1.74'ish I think?


on thinking about the fylgja quest? :) i havent found the right combo on it yet  :(
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 10 November, 2005, 10:21:45 AM
Surprisingly I also voted class issues. There is so much to be done on that part that well, anything else cant compare.

For starters, get the thane on the normal hybrid scale. Why do they have to be on a lower scale? Why cant we use a pie buff, we are still part caster! Overall I love my thane, yet fixing those two things would really balance the thane out imo.

Sb, got nerfed to oblivion because Troll zerkers where doing too much dmg. And in all fairness they arent yet back on the level they should be. Ive seen dozens of stealther movies and the overall sb dmg is a lot lower than the other assassins out there.

Well you all know most of the issues anyway. Just fear they wont do much for those classes, since they ignored the complaints for years already!
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 10 November, 2005, 10:57:21 AM
SB's have been ignored since patch 1.62.

Strange that for such an overpowered class as the sb back in the day, the first rr10 sb was if i remember correctly Salamujarra (sp) and he wasn't rr10 to way after the nerf. Where as Remi was RR10 a couple of patches after 1.62 and he was an infil. The infils whined but yet they could still compete. A NS however was utterly crap in those days.

SB's need to be made on par with NS/Infils, but assassins in general and archers need to be put back on par with the rest of the classes.

Whenever I played my bro's rm in old emain and you saw Deathspam of a ns/infil killing casters you would become much more wary and a little cautious. Nowadays if your a caster and see a deathspam from an ns/infil/sb you run to the area as they are so easy to kill.

Assassins are no longer feared by their most common prey, infact the roles have been reversed. There are far too many anti stealth measures in game, PN's SL, Vamps self SL, Brittle guards giving casters another 1k-2k hits.

The only thing an assassin/archer can do these days is fighteach other. And this is where the sb's are weakest.

I just want the stealther game balanced sb's infils and ns's made on par. I also want assassins to have a greater threat/impact upon RvR. Other classes I couldn't really care less about as DAOC for me is about my sb/hunter.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 10 November, 2005, 12:01:49 PM
Yeah I completely agree. Its foolish that as ns I have to put up a poison spike to try and get rid off nasty brittles and such, just to have a shot at a caster. Something I should be killing easily.

As a ranger I have less trouble with brittles, i just sniper them away from behind a tree (if you hit the brittle, not the caster, then they cannot /face).

And then just shoot two or three times with normal bowshot, then switch to rapid fire to finish them off.

But even though the ranger kills easier, I like my ns better. Gonna make a real template for puz now that Im rich on prydwen. But havent decided yet on the blades vs pierce etc.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 10 November, 2005, 12:16:49 PM
Blades for a ns is really the way to get the most advantage out of remedy.

Batler/malice slash dmg on mid vulnerable leather and alb neutral without the issue of being debuffed (post RR5 ofc). It's the only way i would ever spec as a hib stealther.

Hib stealth is so easy mode, mid stealth is nightmare diffuculty!
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 10 November, 2005, 12:57:03 PM
Cant say much about the sb side, except that Dub says he does fine against the other assassins with his current spec. So its quite possible, just requires more finetuning perhaps.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 10 November, 2005, 01:09:32 PM
in the stealthgame the only real thing I disliked was remedy and melee RANGErs with IP.

Only albstealther I had trouble with was mincers.. but then again I really wasn't all that good at playing with my spec (I sucked at getting the evadechain off.. can really only remember twice when I got it working right..)

my main beef is the casters with 4 brittleguards and MoC+LT+ charmed pets ML9ed
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Adoctor on 10 November, 2005, 01:18:19 PM
come back fend ! :P
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 10 November, 2005, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: "Adoctor"
come back fend ! :P


aoe3 is great :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 10 November, 2005, 01:31:18 PM
oh and.. this is coming up real soon :)

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/current_exams/642-801.html
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 10 November, 2005, 01:34:28 PM
Good luck on the test mate. We'll see you again after you succeed! ;)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 10 November, 2005, 01:40:12 PM
Quote from: "Fenderon"
oh and.. this is coming up real soon :)

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/current_exams/642-801.html


Exam/Career/Real Life > DAOC.

Good luck in the exam mate, hope you come out with top grades, then you can come back to daoc ;)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 10 November, 2005, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: "Aerendur"
Good luck on the test mate. We'll see you again after you succeed! ;)


the CNAP tests first (advanced routing) :) then 642-801
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 10 November, 2005, 02:00:35 PM
Well, the test itself is doable, yet really knowing every in and out even after you complete the test is whats hard to achieve!

I know many people that leave the examining center here with their little paper in the pocket, yet with far too little knowledge to really deliver work on the level they should actually be able to with such a paper.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 10 November, 2005, 02:48:43 PM
true, but you can only learn so much in an "artificial environment" (small labs with 10 routers tops and five switches) and limited access due to other people also needing time.

at least with CNAP passed as well the company hiring can be sure that the person has actually touched and configured equipment before.

I still think that the % needed to pass each CNAP course is too low (50%) when you get 10% for free from the chapter tests.


One just needs experience from real life.. and thats hard to get without having :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Hanza on 10 November, 2005, 02:55:31 PM
Quote
One just needs experience from real life.. and thats hard to get without having


dont worry fend, when i ll be the king of the world i ll hire you to handle my personal network  and help me dealing with my 10 daoc accounts :D
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Dub on 11 November, 2005, 03:59:18 PM
yes nayna i do fine versus enemy assasins if i find em solo , i just had to give up any cs at all to do that whereas they dont ^^ , balanced is nowhere near , hibs is disturbingly easy mode.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Aerendur on 11 November, 2005, 04:07:06 PM
I agree, although Id prefer to say it the other way around (like trall). Midgard stealth is the hardmode. And hib stealth is more 'normal', compared to midgard its probably easymode, but its still not easy in the true sense of the word.

I find the game, especially for the assassins, is way out of whack. Our usual targets get so many counters to us that we can hardly kill them anymore. So we get to fight each other more than the ones we should prey upon.

In that world, top of the foodchain will be a melee ranger. Who gets dualwield, doesnt rely on the initial hit for a win or loss and gets handy tools as zephyr and IP. Which is unfair when fighting sb's for example, but which is quite balancing against brittleguarded casters and the like.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 14 November, 2005, 10:34:29 AM
I agree with Nayna there, I don't want to see ns/infil being brought down (nerfed) so that they are in line with sb's. That would not make things any better.

Assassins in general need a boost to be able to compete with any other class in the game, with sb's getting a slightly bigger boost to bring us on level.

I want the game back to the paper, scissors, stone methodoligy that it was quiteome time back. Of course no class should win everytime the jump an enemy or everytime it is jumped by an enemy. For example if an assassin gets the full PA chain on any class, it should have a greater chance of killing the enemy, as it is now I could PA a convoker caster who has 3 brittles up and a self casted BT. Those 4 forms of defense in that particular scenario means the caster can have an additional 1-2k hits. I don't usually get to the self cast BT as its usually Q-C mezz/root/stun and LT LT LT/DD DD DD dead.

Anyway, I managed to get ml6 completed on saturday so I'll give my new weapon a go at some point this week to see if it makes any difference :)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Woogy on 14 November, 2005, 12:25:13 PM
i think the thread been hijacked o well

yes i think some class issues need to be sorted out. such as why a hunter is beaten by everything. o and also why a vamp is so over powered. im not saying it a bad think as ive got mine to 41 in aroudn 2 days play but i think they may need a bit of changing to make the game a bit fairer for all involved
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Fenderon on 14 November, 2005, 01:05:23 PM
appears 1.81 patch will be class fixes..

but GOA has started changing gamerules by themself now.. nerfing things that still work fine on US servers (at least as far as I understand.. please say if I'm wrong).
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 14 November, 2005, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: "Fenderon"
appears 1.81 patch will be class fixes..

but GOA has started changing gamerules by themself now.. nerfing things that still work fine on US servers (at least as far as I understand.. please say if I'm wrong).


You are indeed very correct. US players can still drop a PS in combat without any penalties.

From Patch 1.81a

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Shadowblades

- Growth rates of Sadowblades Left Axe has been tripled. This should allow all Shadowblades to one-shot every other class in the game.

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At last a bit of equality ;)
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Dub on 14 November, 2005, 03:16:09 PM
good minstrel harder than good ranger imo (not more than  2-3 scary minstrells on our cluster thou) rest of minstrells still is sojourners.

as for the balancing issue , i wanna be able to fight enemy assasins on semi fair ground , most important issue to me , no matter how you balance rest of game stealthers will still have to move the same trails as the other stealths to get prey , stealther balance do matter.

and if hibs think they normal mode they are silly , no matter what else happens in game balance , armour issues and remedy gotta take hit.
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Trallisx on 15 November, 2005, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: "Fenderon"
appears 1.81 patch will be class fixes..


Patch 1.81 has been renamed "untitled" looks like they dont intend to listen to the playerbase.

Many people have rightnowed the PS as a bug and stated that it is still usable in combat on the US servers. GOA have replied that the fix has been to make the PS a dot mine once again. Looks like GOA are doing things on their own backs now.

I just find it outrageous that they are so happy to nerf one of the weakest set of classes in the game. (I say weakest in terms of our roles/functions/what or game type is, not by ability to kill).
Title: New poll up on GOA webby - ONLY FOR 48 HOURS!
Post by: Dub on 15 November, 2005, 06:26:44 PM
actually i really dont care if they give ns another iwin button , aslong as it not stop my poisons from working , that is plain retarded.

why am i not allowed to rely on alch poisons to slow down enemy attack speed or endusage ? , remedy forces you to spec for an att speed decrease style , that is boring to say the least.

might be the way to hit remedy , claim it a nerf to midgards alchemist , who cares if it not true , still would go under the we only balance on realm v realm lvl  8)
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