I think with the server population being where it is atm, a lot of PvP alternatives arent very attractive atm. Killing Caine or something like that with a full 40man raid might be okay to be like "the first ones". As no other guild has done this yet to my understanding. But there isn't going to be anywhere near as many hordes around. I think by end of November we might see the server pick up in population a lot more for both sides if Crestfall dont announce anything.