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[climbatize]

If someone runs by some spare key's for the beta id like to give it  ago ^^

[Aerendur]

Makes sense Gont, changed mine to Puz and Puz!

Not sure if I should reserve Nayna, but well I'll find some other name if not..

@Leo, I'll have a peek. Didn't see one when I signed up yet!

[Gont]

I get three seven day passes, but only after launch. will that do?

[climbatize]

I get three seven day passes, but only after launch. will that do?

Got a beta invite so tested around the classes and combat generaly so far didnt go much into other stuff!
How do you mean three seven day passes? xD

[Gont]

I preordered - you get a certain number of 7 day passes to give to people. However, I didn't play the beta due to the cash shop being a clear money grab. Basic stuff that you need (pets for example) are stupidly expensive. Well, everything is stupidly expensive. They have a terms and services clause that if you play the beta, you can't get a refund too 0.o. I'm pretty sure that's bullshit, but didn't want to risk it. I'm waiting to see how the whole argument about the cash shop pans out. if it stay as it is - a blatant cash grab in a B2P game - then I will be asking for my moneyz back.

[TenzorDK]

So how may bought this game? It seems like the only game out there worth playning atm.

All work an no play makes Tenzzz.....

GW2 WvWvW update inbound though

FYI - there is talk about the game becoming more and more PTW.
Cash shop items give stats and cost A LOT. Pets and outfits give stats and cost - just the upgraded pets cost like $160. Mounts take a tone of time to make but can be bought from the cash shop for $20.
Skill reset costs RL or loyalty (loyalty = points per day gamed) cash https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/206954369-Skill-Reset
some costumes can be crafted though http://www.blackdeserttome.com/wiki/Costumes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LngT-UwNbwk

[Gont]

The debate about the cash shop is onging. A lot of people are trying to get refunds based on the info you've mentioned above Tenz: basically saying the product they are now reciving is not that which was initially advertised. There are also issues with the cash shop prices and how they are effectively the same as the F2P versions, yet we B2P. I've tried getting a refund and they are saying because I downloaded the game (but didn't play the beta) I have waived my right to a refund. This is of course BS under EU law, but I'm currently wondering if I should play or not. At the minute, I'm keeping an eye on the cash shop thread:

http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/13533-cbt-2-cash-shop-prices-and-items-discussion/

So far they have said nothing since the beta. Make of that what you will.

[TenzorDK]

Ok thanks for the heads up Gont. I will have to wait and see 😊

[Aerendur]

Thanks for the info and headsup. I wont download anything just yet. 

Still looks like a game that could be fun to play. But im having fun in gw2 as well atm. So could keep it at that if this is too much p2w..

[Gont]

Haven't played GW2 in ages. Might fire it up later and have a look. Haven't seen anything of the expac yet.

[Gont]

Right, looks Like I will be playing this as they are being asses about refunds. Heading to Jordine server - Would be nice to see anyone who is playing there.

[Gont]

My refund came through. Good. They still haven't made an announcement re the cash shop after 3k posts - the soft launch is tomorrow. Well, that's me out and it's very much looking like pay to win. Shame, it looks like a good game otherwise. Ah well, going to play a bit of GW2 and maybe give the division a look.

[Aerendur]

Hmm, crappy. How did you achieve the refund? Might go that route as well then.. 

[Gont]

via their website. in your account you submit a ticket. took them a week to do i though.

[Aerendur]

I have decided to keep my account and give the game a try 'on the side'. Figured that it does look pretty, could give me some time to get used to my orbweaver and if I play > 6h it would be cheaper than going to the cinema! 

Thus I won't go hardcore pvp there, which seems impossible anyway.  I don't have that much time!